Europe Trip December 1st Meeting

Europe Trip Meeting December 1st Minutes

Next meeting in January
Please see comments area for skype chat transcripts and transcript from conversation with Gerald.


**Selection of EuroPass and first night in Frankfurt are critical for Rui's Visa (since his Visa was initially rejected( for lack of documentation))**** Resolved in Meeting

1) Any necessary Documentation (status of pending documentation)
None except those noted already (Hotel Reservations and Eurorail pass)

2) Cities/Countries/attractions to Visit, Alternate cities as well (in case of problems)

*****FINAL LIST
Frankfurt
Amsterdam
Paris
Rome
Florence
Venice
Barcelona
Madrid

Action: Ed, Rui, Poon to research specific attractions ***Complete****

3) EuroPass (which one?) (What is the earliest they can be purchased?)

Youth 2nd Class, 5 Countries Select, 8 days
Total Cost $471. (Rui already purchase)

Action: Poon and Ed to purchase rail passes ****Complete****

Gerald Suggested make sure which train station it departs from since paris has for 3 for example.

4) Intra europe flights (if any?)

None

5) Hotels (specifically at least one night in Frankfurt/Germany) (plan as many as possible?)
Rui booked City-Hotel-West in Frankfurt Germany, Cost: 105 for one night for one room with three beds.

March 29th

http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/CityHotelWest-Frankfurt-17077



Action: Ed, Rui and Poon to research rest of nights hostels. ****Complete****

6) Transportation to/from LAX
Per Ed at worst we can take shuttle from his work. Most likely sister can take us.

Action: Ed to find out for sure whether sister will drive ****Complete****

7) Necessary travel gear (ie laptop, usb bridge)
-Rui will bring laptop
-Poon to bring two usb to mini cable
-hostel sheets
-compression bags
-money belt- rui already has one
-toiletry kit
-Toilet paper
-Photocopy of documents
-Earplugs (Poon and Ed)
-Soap
-Towels
-Flash light
- Pillow/ Pillow Case
More at
http://www.ricksteves.com/plan/tips/packlist.htm


Action: Ed, Rui and Poon to continue to think about what to bring and buy. ****Complete****

8) Necessary medicine
First aid kit
-Aspirin
-Pepto bismul
-Immodium AD
-Pepcid AC
-Dramamine
-Jet Lag pills
-Allergy Medicine(Poon)
-Chewing Gum
-Cold Medicine
-Inhaler (ED)
-bandaids

Recommend Flu Shots (Flu season in Europe)
Action: Rui and Ed to get flu shots (Too Late Now- Update March 26)

9) Maps for each city we go.

Rui has maps of Paris, Rome, Athens, and Napoli, but we’re only going to paris and rome.

Decent map included with rail pass purchase

Ed and Poon have gps maps.
To discuss at next meeting....

10) Communication Methods
Action: Ed and Poon will bring walkie talkies after Christmas. ****Complete****

Ed has the RAZR Unlocked and can borrow prepaid simcard/buy.
Action: Poon to get pda phone unlocked. ****Complete****

11) Voltage Converters
Poon has one plug adapter

Action: Ed please check to see if voltage converters necessary for his stuff. ****Complete****


12) Clothes
(It will be cold in Germany and other part of Europe) - Rui
40 degree weather in Germany
50 degree in Italy
Pack in compression bags
To discuss in next meeting…


13) Credit Cards/ATM cards/how to get money/buy things in europe
Poon suggested Capital One since they eat Visa/Mastercard fee and don’t charge any fees for purchasing worldwide.

Washington mutual new account has no fee for withdrawing worldwide, but the bank you withdraw from may.
Ed’s bank has parnership with Europe local branches so he may withdraw from there later.

Action: Ed and Rui to get appropriate credit cards ****Complete****
(Remember to call Credit Card/Bank to notify of travel)-Poon

14) Transportation between cities and within (plan as much as possible)

Specific routes wait till we receive rail pass maps.
Action: Poon, Ed, and Rui to Research ****Complete****
Discuss next meeting….

15) Student Travel Cards, Hostel Memberships
(necessary?)
Discuss next meeting...

16) Learning Foreign Language

(Update March 28th.... we were all too lazy to learn a language)
Action: Each person to learn language for their assigned country
Rui-German
Poon- Italian
Ed-French



-Poon

Items we need

For Our trip to Europe.
Please add in the comments section all items suggested to bring.

I will consolidate this into a final list in a later post.

some possible items-
http://www.ricksteves.com/plan/tips/packlist.htm

-Poon

Flight Info

For completeness I'm adding our Flight info.

Flying Via US Airways. Theres a huge gap in between connecting flights since the other flights had less than an hour in between. So it was either a huge gap in between or very little.

Tickets were $905 for each person. We are flying "Open Jaw" into one city and out another city that the same Airline flies out/into. It cost less to just fly round trip to Frankfurt. "Open Jaw" flights must be booked from US Airways site. Select the multiple Cities option and just enter two different cities.

Strangely "Open Jaw" is not the same as buying two one way tickets... Buying two one way tickets would of cost us about 50% more.

For Round Trip/one way flights I found that Farechase on Yahoo worked best.

***Update Feb 14 Ticket prices are even cheaper now about $800 for our Open Jaw itinerary... too bad we can't change now, Also Updated the Flight Times Below***

Flying into Europe from LAX to Frankfurt Germany
Leaving Europe from Madrid Spain to LAX.

Flying into Europe March 28th, arrive next day:

9:05 AM 28 Mar 2008 Depart Los Angeles, CA
4:33 PM 28 Mar 2008 Arrive Charlotte, NC
Airbus A321 Travel Time: 4 h 28 m
On-Time: 90-100%

9:00 PM 28 Mar 2008 Depart Charlotte, NC
10:35 AM 29 Mar 2008 Arrive Frankfurt, Germany
Airbus A333 Time: 8 h 35 m

Leaving Europe on April 12th:

1:05 PM 12 Apr 2008 Depart Madrid, Spain
3:45 PM 12 Apr 2008 Arrive Philadelphia, PA
Boeing 767 Travel Time: 8 h 40m

6:15 PM 12 Apr 2008 Depart Philadelphia, PA
9:20 PM 12 Apr 2008 Arrive Los Angeles, CA
Airbus A321 Travel Time: 6 h 5 m
On-Time: 40-50%

-Poon

Meeting Agenda for Dec 1, Meeting

This is the agenda for our First Euorpe Meeting. Rui will be teleconferencing in via skype.
The meeting minutes will be posted following the meeting.

Selection of EuroPass and first night in Frankfurt are critical for Rui's Visa (since his Visa was initially rejected( for lack of documentation))

1) Any necessary Documentation (status of pending documentation)

2) Cities/Countries/attractions to Visit, Alternate cities as well (in case of problems)

3) EuroPass (which one?) (What is the earliest they can be purchased?)

4) Intra europe flights (if any?)

5) Hotels (specifically at least one night in Frankfurt/Germany) (plan as many as possible?)

6) Transportation to/from LAX

7) Necessary travel gear (ie laptop, usb bridge)

8) Necessary medicine
(I heard going to see doctor is kind of difficult in Europe, and you need prescription to buy Medicine) - Rui

Recommend Flu Shots (Flu season in Europe) -Poon

9) Maps for each city we go.
(This suggestion is from my landlord, she suggest to buy a detail map for each city and it will save us a lot of time to travel inside of the city) - Rui

(You'll get a decent Europe rail map with your rail pass purchase.)- about.com europe article

(Do we need to buy? Ed and I have GPS. Should we buy in US or Europe?)-Poon

10) Communication Methods
(I hope we never get lost with each other, but if we do, we need a way communicate to regroup)- Rui

(If we lose Rui we will probably never see him again... No big loss though!)-Poon

11) Voltage Converters
(Most of Europe countries will use 220V except Spain 110V, so prepare voltage converter for your electronic) -Rui

(Voltage Converters or Just plug adapters, Please check the electronics you intend to bring ahead of time?)-Poon


12) Clothes
(It will be cold in Germany and other part of Europe) - Rui

13) Credit Cards/ATM cards/how to get money/buy things in europe
(Remember to call Credit Card/Bank to notify of travel)-Poon

14) Transportation between cities and within (plan as much as possible)

15) Student Travel Cards
(necessary?)

16) Learning Foreign Lanugauge
Rui-German, Poon- Italian, Ed-French? Good Idea?
-Poon

First Trip Map Draft

(Sample Map View for the trip)

K, this is about 3 am at morning and I just finished the trip planning through yahoo travel. This is a draft, which means anything could be changed, however, I do want to mention that I put a lot of time on researching different cities and places. The things I list there is based on multiple travel sites suggestions, so it is trust worth. The schedule I put for each city is totally subjective, but we can discuss that later on. The travel method between each city is still left out, but we can discuss this later on as well. I can add you two if you have yahoo ID, then you will be able to edit the trip as your will. (Sorry it has to be yahoo ID)

Here is the URL that you can view the trip:
http://travel.yahoo.com/trip-view-1396789-europe_trip;_ylt=AmWxDAfj47vwJEjEXOuBiTWbItAF

-Rui

It was decided that this schedule is unrealistic
-Poon

Europe Trip March 28-April 12

This blog will be used to document in detail our Europe Planning and Trip!

Hints, Suggestions, and our Mistakes will be carefully recorded so others can learn.

How did this trip come to be?
Following graduation from Cal Poly not one of us had the time to take a final graduation trip. Unlike our friends who took off to Europe immediately following graduation (for a month living very cheaply)... each one of us had jobs lined up. So even though Ed and Rui will have been out of school for almost 2 years and Tom for almost 1 year this is in a way our final college graduation trip!

A little bit about us...

How do we know each other?
From the short biographies below it is obvious that we all met in college at Cal Poly(Rui and Ed met in the Summer of 2002, Tom met both in Fall of 2002). We all lived in the dorms together (Tower 5, Sierra Madre, Third Floor). Rui lived next door to Tom and Ed lived across the hall. Tom and Rui ended up roommates at Kris Kar apartments and Grand Terrace apartments for two years while attending Cal Poly. All three of us are Engineers.

Rui (Pronounced Ray ) was Born In China. He lived in China until the end of his Sophmore year in High School.
From there he moved to Santa Maria, CA (Central Coast), where he attended his junior and senior year of high school. In the Summer of 2002, he went to California Polytechnic State University (Cal Poly) in San Luis Obispo. Graduated in 2006 (B.S. Computer Science) and currently works as a Quality Software Engineer at Sonic Solutions (Not the Fast Food Joint) in San Luis Obispo, where he lives .

Ed is born/raised in Modesto, California (North California), Following high school attended California Polytechnic State University (Cal Poly) in San Luis Obispo in the Summer of 2002. He graduated in 2006 with B.S. Electrical Engineering and currently works as an Engineer (Rotational Program) at Raytheon in El Segundo, California. He resides in Redondo Beach and is concurrently earning his Master's in Systems Engineering at USC.

Tom (Will be referred to as Poon) was born in Long Island, New York. He moved to Camarillo, CA (Near Ventura) at age one. He then moved to Pleasanton, Ca (Bay Area) at the end of middle school. Upon completion of high school in Pleasanton, attended California Polytechnic State University (Cal Poly) in San Luis Obispo, CA. He graduated in Spring 2007 with B.S. Electrical Engineering and currently works as a Regulatory Affairs Electronics Engineer at Alcon Laboratories in Irvine, CA, where he resides.


Our Limited International Traveling Experience:
This is the first time any of us will have visited Europe.

Rui: China
Ed: None
Poon: Mexico, Canada, Hong Kong/China

Very Limited Foreign Language Experience

Rui: Mandarin
Ed: Limited Spanish
Poon: Limited Cantonese, Limited Spanish

The Flaking Fourth Member

Our very early planning included Van. Ed has known Van most of his life, while Rui and Tom met him freshman year in college. Unfortunately Van's work/financial schedule would not allow him to attend this trip... however he has assured us that he will attend the next great adventure!


-Poon