Europe Trip Meeting December 1st Minutes
Next meeting in January
Please see comments area for skype chat transcripts and transcript from conversation with Gerald.
**Selection of EuroPass and first night in Frankfurt are critical for Rui's Visa (since his Visa was initially rejected( for lack of documentation))**** Resolved in Meeting
1) Any necessary Documentation (status of pending documentation)
None except those noted already (Hotel Reservations and Eurorail pass)
2) Cities/Countries/attractions to Visit, Alternate cities as well (in case of problems)
*****FINAL LIST
Frankfurt
Amsterdam
Paris
Rome
Florence
Venice
Barcelona
Madrid
Action: Ed, Rui, Poon to research specific attractions ***Complete****
3) EuroPass (which one?) (What is the earliest they can be purchased?)
Youth 2nd Class, 5 Countries Select, 8 days
Total Cost $471. (Rui already purchase)
Action: Poon and Ed to purchase rail passes ****Complete****
Gerald Suggested make sure which train station it departs from since paris has for 3 for example.
4) Intra europe flights (if any?)
None
5) Hotels (specifically at least one night in Frankfurt/Germany) (plan as many as possible?)
Rui booked City-Hotel-West in Frankfurt Germany, Cost: 105 for one night for one room with three beds.
March 29th
http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/CityHotelWest-Frankfurt-17077
Action: Ed, Rui and Poon to research rest of nights hostels. ****Complete****
6) Transportation to/from LAX
Per Ed at worst we can take shuttle from his work. Most likely sister can take us.
Action: Ed to find out for sure whether sister will drive ****Complete****
7) Necessary travel gear (ie laptop, usb bridge)
-Rui will bring laptop
-Poon to bring two usb to mini cable
-hostel sheets
-compression bags
-money belt- rui already has one
-toiletry kit
-Toilet paper
-Photocopy of documents
-Earplugs (Poon and Ed)
-Soap
-Towels
-Flash light
- Pillow/ Pillow Case
More at
http://www.ricksteves.com/plan/tips/packlist.htm
Action: Ed, Rui and Poon to continue to think about what to bring and buy. ****Complete****
8) Necessary medicine
First aid kit
-Aspirin
-Pepto bismul
-Immodium AD
-Pepcid AC
-Dramamine
-Jet Lag pills
-Allergy Medicine(Poon)
-Chewing Gum
-Cold Medicine
-Inhaler (ED)
-bandaids
Recommend Flu Shots (Flu season in Europe)
Action: Rui and Ed to get flu shots (Too Late Now- Update March 26)
9) Maps for each city we go.
Rui has maps of Paris, Rome, Athens, and Napoli, but we’re only going to paris and rome.
Decent map included with rail pass purchase
Ed and Poon have gps maps.
To discuss at next meeting....
10) Communication Methods
Action: Ed and Poon will bring walkie talkies after Christmas. ****Complete****
Ed has the RAZR Unlocked and can borrow prepaid simcard/buy.
Action: Poon to get pda phone unlocked. ****Complete****
11) Voltage Converters
Poon has one plug adapter
Action: Ed please check to see if voltage converters necessary for his stuff. ****Complete****
12) Clothes
(It will be cold in Germany and other part of Europe) - Rui
40 degree weather in Germany
50 degree in Italy
Pack in compression bags
To discuss in next meeting…
13) Credit Cards/ATM cards/how to get money/buy things in europe
Poon suggested Capital One since they eat Visa/Mastercard fee and don’t charge any fees for purchasing worldwide.
Washington mutual new account has no fee for withdrawing worldwide, but the bank you withdraw from may.
Ed’s bank has parnership with Europe local branches so he may withdraw from there later.
Action: Ed and Rui to get appropriate credit cards ****Complete****
(Remember to call Credit Card/Bank to notify of travel)-Poon
14) Transportation between cities and within (plan as much as possible)
Specific routes wait till we receive rail pass maps.
Action: Poon, Ed, and Rui to Research ****Complete****
Discuss next meeting….
15) Student Travel Cards, Hostel Memberships
(necessary?)
Discuss next meeting...
16) Learning Foreign Language
(Update March 28th.... we were all too lazy to learn a language)
Action: Each person to learn language for their assigned country
Rui-German
Poon- Italian
Ed-French
-Poon
Transcript Skype Chat
ReplyDeleteThomas Poon
9:58 AM
hello
wooward12
9:58 AM
ok
10:03 AM
http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/citynavntEurope.jsp
10:06 AM
wooward@yahoo.com
Thomas Poon
10:10 AM
http://www.ricksteves.com/rail/comparetickets.htm
wooward12
10:31 AM
http://goamsterdam.about.com/od/whattodoinamsterdam/tp/top5thingstodo.htm
10:50 AM
call me back
polyre
10:51 AM
hold on
Thomas Poon
10:53 AM
Rui MUTE YOUR MIC
11:06 AM
FRANKFURT
Amsterdam
Paris
Rome
Venice
Barcelona
Madrid
polyre
11:12 AM
muted
Thomas Poon
11:12 AM
UNMUTE
polyre
11:19 AM
Brussels, BRU
Thomas Poon
11:23 AM
http://www.eurail.com/
11:23 AM
Youth Passes
wooward12
11:43 AM
Germany
11:43 AM
Benelux
11:43 AM
France
11:43 AM
Italy
11:43 AM
Spain
Thomas Poon
11:44 AM
prague, vienna, rome, cinque terre, nice, valencia, barcelona, paris, brussels, dublin(ireland), scarries(ireland), amsterdam, munich
11:44 AM
This is where Gerald went
12:03 PM
http://www.famoushostels.com/
polyre
12:12 PM
here is a site for just Germany hotels
12:12 PM
http://germany.hotels.hu/hotel-hits.en.html
12:13 PM
http://germany.hotels.hu/frankfurt/main/city-hotel-west/hotel-information.en.html
Thomas Poon
12:15 PM
http://www.hosteleurope.com/findabed.php?PHPSESSID=67be88cb779750e6e9cd01d3ceac6bc6
12:15 PM
hosteleurope.com
polyre
12:35 PM
http://www.ebags.com/eagle_creek/undercover_trade_passport_money_case/product_detail/index.cfm?modelID=5693
wooward12
12:37 PM
here
Thomas Poon
12:37 PM
http://www.ricksteves.com/plan/tips/packlist.htm
polyre
12:39 PM
hold on, I think my mic is dying, let me check
Thomas Poon
12:41 PM
you coming rui?
polyre
12:41 PM
my mic is dying, it got disconnect
12:42 PM
dude
12:42 PM
I can hear u
12:42 PM
fine
12:42 PM
u fag, poomn
12:42 PM
i 'll kill u
12:43 PM
and also those thing to cuel dizzy
12:43 PM
like for the boat and train
12:44 PM
also med for the cold
12:44 PM
band
12:45 PM
that's it
Thomas Poon
12:45 PM
-Aspirin
-Pepto bismul
-Immodium AD
-Pepcid AC
-Dramamine
-Jet Lag pills
-Allergy Medicine(Poon)
-Chewing Gum
-Cold Medicine
-Inhaler (ED)
-bandaids
polyre
12:45 PM
maybe something for the drunkness
12:45 PM
it is most for you two
12:46 PM
I am ok with that list
12:46 PM
it is just I heard buying med is difficult in Europe
12:46 PM
true
12:47 PM
yea
12:47 PM
I got paris
12:47 PM
rome
12:47 PM
athnes
12:47 PM
abd napoli
12:48 PM
atcually two
12:48 PM
yep
12:49 PM
come to SLO
12:49 PM
fuk that
12:49 PM
I came there already
12:49 PM
I goona mail it
12:49 PM
I just need to mail them all the stuff
12:50 PM
I guess, you two are soooo lazy
12:50 PM
like once
12:50 PM
Gees, don't even start on that
12:50 PM
I hate that channel
12:51 PM
how do we make phone call in Europe?
12:52 PM
not on the train
12:52 PM
not all hotel has internet
12:53 PM
yea, that is what I heard
12:53 PM
prepaid sim card, just put it in your cell
12:54 PM
yes, so we are going to get prepaid sim card?
12:54 PM
k
12:54 PM
yes
12:54 PM
same voltage
12:54 PM
110V-240V
12:55 PM
it said on the converter review, so I don't know if it is right or wrong
Thomas Poon
12:55 PM
http://users.pandora.be/worldstandards/electricity.htm#voltage_table
12:56 PM
EMPOWer plugs
1:11 PM
http://www.istc.org/sisp/index.htm
1:13 PM
http://www.eurotrip.com/hostels/hostel_cards.html
1:13 PM
Theres also this hostel memberships
wooward12
1:33 PM
http://www.rei.com/product/747131
1:34 PM
http://www.rei.com/REI-Outlet/product/764735
1:35 PM
http://www.letravelstore.com/2017810.html
Transcript of my conversation with Gerald Fong regarding his EU trip.
ReplyDelete1:42:21 AM SLObearsi: umm, prague, vienna, rome, cinque terre, nice, valencia, barcelona, paris, brussels, dublin(ireland), scarries(ireland), amsterdam, munich
11:42:26 AM SLObearsi: frankfurt too
11:42:36 AM Thomas Poon: was brussels worth it
11:42:54 AM SLObearsi: we were actually just there to catch a plane
11:42:58 AM Thomas Poon: so no
11:43:00 AM Thomas Poon: ?
11:43:00 AM SLObearsi: so we only saw the train station
11:43:06 AM SLObearsi: we wanted to go back but no time
11:43:44 AM SLObearsi: we couldnt sacrifice amsterdam to go to brussels, put it that way
11:44:20 AM Thomas Poon: Frankfurt
Amsterdam
Paris
Rome
Venice
Barcelona
Madrid
11:44:31 AM Thomas Poon: Thats what were thinking
11:44:49 AM SLObearsi: airte
11:44:59 AM Thomas Poon: was vienna tight?
11:45:05 AM SLObearsi: we were there for a day
11:45:09 AM SLObearsi: its pretty beautiful
11:45:15 AM SLObearsi: we got rental bikes
11:45:18 AM SLObearsi: and just rode around
11:46:11 AM Thomas Poon: was barcelona tight
11:46:20 AM Thomas Poon: ?
11:46:47 AM Thomas Poon: What do you think of our list
11:46:55 AM Thomas Poon: how long did you travel?
11:47:47 AM SLObearsi: p[rob 29 days
11:47:55 AM SLObearsi: or 28
11:48:01 AM SLObearsi: mimus fly in/fly out days
11:48:11 AM SLObearsi: some of those places have some distance between em
11:48:19 AM SLObearsi: so ur flying out of madrid tho?
11:48:23 AM Thomas Poon: yes
11:48:27 AM Thomas Poon: in frankfurt out madrid
11:48:50 AM SLObearsi: ok
11:49:17 AM SLObearsi: so frankfurt to amsterdam is prob 6 hours, amsterdam to paris is prob 4(maybe)
11:49:20 AM SLObearsi: from paris to rome tho
11:49:26 AM SLObearsi: its a long train ride man
11:49:29 AM SLObearsi: well
11:49:33 AM Thomas Poon: we can take high speed train
11:49:39 AM SLObearsi: yeaa
11:49:42 AM Thomas Poon: 6.5 hours
11:49:44 AM SLObearsi: but they might not be available
11:49:45 AM SLObearsi: OOH
11:49:49 AM SLObearsi: u checked
11:49:56 AM SLObearsi: thats not too bad then
11:50:06 AM Thomas Poon: its like 100 dollars more... but meh
11:50:10 AM SLObearsi: haha'
11:50:12 AM SLObearsi: yeaa
11:50:18 AM SLObearsi: its cheaeper than flying still
11:50:23 AM SLObearsi: um yea
11:50:23 AM Thomas Poon: no
11:50:29 AM SLObearsi: flyings a bitch tho
11:50:30 AM Thomas Poon: easyjet.com
11:50:32 AM SLObearsi: u lose alot of time
11:50:36 AM SLObearsi: well i guess if u book it now
11:50:36 AM Thomas Poon: ryanair.com
11:50:37 AM SLObearsi: its ok
11:50:41 AM SLObearsi: ryanair was a bitch man
11:50:46 AM Thomas Poon: i heard
11:50:48 AM SLObearsi: 140 euros to fly to ireland
11:50:59 AM SLObearsi: given we did book 3 days in advance
11:51:02 AM Thomas Poon: they had a 15 euro special
11:51:11 AM Thomas Poon: 18euro acutually including taxes
11:51:16 AM SLObearsi: whoa
11:51:20 AM SLObearsi: not badd
11:51:27 AM SLObearsi: ok well if ur are taking trains
11:51:31 AM SLObearsi: some cities have multiple stations
11:51:34 AM SLObearsi: make sure u get to the right one
11:51:43 AM SLObearsi: i know paris has 3
11:51:54 AM Thomas Poon: ok
11:51:59 AM SLObearsi: i think everywhere else only had one tho
11:52:10 AM SLObearsi: so if u take a taxi, make sure u tell em the right one
11:52:15 AM Thomas Poon: ok
11:52:19 AM SLObearsi: learn from experience
11:52:29 AM SLObearsi: but u wont be disappointed in that lineup
11:53:55 AM Thomas Poon: where did you use the internet?
11:53:58 AM Thomas Poon: cafes?
11:54:04 AM SLObearsi: yeaa they had alot of places around
11:54:04 AM Thomas Poon: did you bring laptops?
11:54:15 AM SLObearsi: it was prob like 1 euro for 30 minutes
11:54:19 AM SLObearsi: or 1 euro for 20
11:54:22 AM SLObearsi: something like htat
11:54:22 AM SLObearsi: nah
11:54:23 AM SLObearsi: we didnt
11:54:25 AM SLObearsi: wasnt worth it
11:54:34 AM SLObearsi: we brought mp3 players and anthony had some speakers
11:54:35 AM Thomas Poon: so no laptops
11:54:36 AM Thomas Poon: ok
11:54:39 AM SLObearsi: thats about has high tech as we got
11:54:39 AM SLObearsi: yea
11:54:44 AM SLObearsi: we figured we might break em
11:54:52 AM SLObearsi: some hostels u stay in have fre internet
11:54:55 AM SLObearsi: or u pay for it
11:54:58 AM SLObearsi: so its always aroune
11:55:07 AM SLObearsi: we were worrieda bout that but everywheres got internet
11:55:14 AM Thomas Poon: ok
11:55:29 AM Thomas Poon: did you spend a lot of nights in trains?
11:56:08 AM Thomas Poon: do you have skype?
11:56:09 AM SLObearsi: umm
11:56:14 AM SLObearsi: i think we did 3
11:56:16 AM SLObearsi: actually
11:56:30 AM SLObearsi: cuz the cost was rediculous for a sleeper car with beds
11:56:34 AM SLObearsi: it was 35 euros
11:56:37 AM SLObearsi: the cheapest
11:56:40 AM SLObearsi: on top of our pass
11:56:41 AM Thomas Poon: each person
11:56:43 AM SLObearsi: yea
11:56:52 AM SLObearsi: the last time we were on it, we just got seats
11:56:54 AM SLObearsi: 4 euros
11:56:55 AM SLObearsi: each
11:57:12 AM Thomas Poon: ok
11:57:13 AM SLObearsi: we tried to plan around short train rides after thos
11:57:16 AM SLObearsi: so leave early
11:57:21 AM SLObearsi: get to the next city decently early
11:57:28 AM SLObearsi: cuz u usually cant check in til 2 i think
11:57:34 AM SLObearsi: but u can leave ur bags there
11:57:39 AM Thomas Poon: ok
11:58:30 AM SLObearsi: http://www.famoushostels.com/
11:58:45 AM SLObearsi: in rome, i heard the alessandro palace and bar is awesome
11:58:51 AM SLObearsi: we stayed at alessandro downtown
12:00:58 PM Thomas Poon: ok
12:03:55 PM SLObearsi: its gonna be a fun trip man
12:04:50 PM Thomas Poon: I know
12:04:55 PM Thomas Poon: what site did you use to boook hostels?
Changed status to Idle (12:14:23 PM)
12:26:41 PM Thomas Poon: if I go to an internet cafe
12:27:07 PM Thomas Poon: do you think we can transfer our pictures from like sd card to an external hard drive
12:59:19 PM Thomas Poon: did you guys get student ID cards
1:34:00 PM SLObearsi: sorry man
1:34:02 PM SLObearsi: went downstairs
1:34:15 PM SLObearsi: umm
1:34:18 PM SLObearsi: we didnt get student id cards
1:34:24 PM SLObearsi: we mostly used hostelworld.com
1:34:26 PM SLObearsi: to book hostels
1:34:29 PM SLObearsi: they do charge u a fee tho
1:34:50 PM SLObearsi: so if u see a hostel u like, try going to its own webpage and see if you can reserve it straight from them
1:34:54 PM SLObearsi: picture wise
1:34:57 PM SLObearsi: bring it
1:35:01 PM SLObearsi: bring the ext. hd
1:35:10 PM SLObearsi: some places are more tech savvy than others with usb ports
1:35:18 PM SLObearsi: so it depends where u go
1:35:23 PM SLObearsi: if u see a place where they are gaming
1:35:30 PM SLObearsi: more likely able to transfer ur pics
1:35:35 PM SLObearsi: bring a sd card reader
1:35:46 PM SLObearsi: or whatever memory card reader u have
1:37:03 PM Thomas Poon: what kind of backpack did you get
1:37:07 PM Thomas Poon: did you get one with wheels
1:37:52 PM SLObearsi: nah
1:37:59 PM SLObearsi: we just had the ones where u wear on ur back
1:38:02 PM Thomas Poon: is one iwth wheels practical
1:38:03 PM SLObearsi: cuz most of the time
1:38:07 PM SLObearsi: we didnt know where we were goig
1:38:10 PM SLObearsi: so we were just walking
1:38:13 PM SLObearsi: i dont think so
1:38:18 PM SLObearsi: i mean
1:38:21 PM SLObearsi: the back is pretty easy
1:38:23 PM SLObearsi: cuz
1:38:24 PM SLObearsi: ok
1:38:28 PM SLObearsi: my bag was 30 lbs i think
1:38:30 PM SLObearsi: or 35
1:38:36 PM SLObearsi: so its not that bad carryig around
1:38:42 PM SLObearsi: cuz some streets arent the best
1:38:50 PM Thomas Poon: would you of been happier with one with wheels
1:38:52 PM SLObearsi: so rolling on cobblestone can be a pain in the ass
1:38:55 PM SLObearsi: umm
1:39:01 PM SLObearsi: for the first couple of days yes
1:39:05 PM SLObearsi: but i got used to it
1:39:09 PM SLObearsi: just pack light
1:39:16 PM SLObearsi: really, alot is not needed
1:39:24 PM Thomas Poon: how big was your backpack
1:39:28 PM SLObearsi: um
1:39:39 PM SLObearsi: ask anthony
1:39:42 PM SLObearsi: i borrowed his sisters
1:40:01 PM SLObearsi: all u need tho, truthfully, is like one pair of jeans
1:40:06 PM SLObearsi: 1/2 pairs of shorts
1:40:11 PM SLObearsi: 4 tshirts
1:40:15 PM SLObearsi: a hoody
1:40:18 PM SLObearsi: a dress shirt
1:40:28 PM SLObearsi: do laundry once
1:40:30 PM SLObearsi: in between
1:40:35 PM SLObearsi: or 5 shirts
1:40:43 PM SLObearsi: i brought 2 pairs of jeans and it was a waste
1:40:45 PM Thomas Poon: were going in the winter
1:40:49 PM SLObearsi: OOh
1:40:50 PM SLObearsi: haha
1:40:52 PM SLObearsi: well then
1:40:53 PM SLObearsi: cut the shorts
1:40:57 PM SLObearsi: add anothe rpair of pants
1:40:58 PM SLObearsi: hah
1:41:16 PM SLObearsi: i wanna say the pack was 3000 cu inches
1:41:21 PM SLObearsi: but im not too sure
1:41:33 PM SLObearsi: actually
1:41:42 PM Thomas Poon: i got one with a daypack
1:41:47 PM Thomas Poon: together they have 4200
1:41:52 PM SLObearsi: holy
1:41:55 PM SLObearsi: yea man youll have enough
1:41:58 PM SLObearsi: prob fill up half of that
1:42:02 PM SLObearsi: daypack is key tho
1:42:03 PM SLObearsi: good call
1:42:35 PM SLObearsi: what was smart, and i couldnt utilize this cuz my bag was so full, was stuffing your daypack into your big pack when u were moving around
1:42:41 PM SLObearsi: alot easier just having one pack on ur back
1:42:52 PM Thomas Poon: well mine attaches to the main pack
1:42:57 PM SLObearsi: ah
1:42:59 PM SLObearsi: well either way
1:43:03 PM SLObearsi: mine didnt
1:43:05 PM Thomas Poon: and whats key is it does it without making you tip over
1:43:10 PM SLObearsi: HAHA
1:43:11 PM SLObearsi: yeaa
1:43:16 PM SLObearsi: just dont overpack
1:43:19 PM SLObearsi: thats the big thing
1:43:26 PM SLObearsi: i threw maybe 25% percent of my clothes away
1:43:31 PM SLObearsi: wear it once or twice, toss it
1:43:36 PM SLObearsi: cuz i realized i did pack too much
1:44:24 PM Thomas Poon: did you check your bag in at most places
1:44:29 PM Thomas Poon: were there days that you didn't
1:46:22 PM SLObearsi: umm
1:46:29 PM SLObearsi: we landed at frankfurt
1:46:34 PM SLObearsi: train didnt leave for another say 10 hours
1:46:41 PM SLObearsi: we checked it at the train station
1:46:43 PM SLObearsi: in the lockers
1:46:55 PM SLObearsi: u might be able to fit one or two packs per locker
1:47:00 PM SLObearsi: heads up to save some money
1:47:09 PM SLObearsi: some train stations are nicer than others
1:47:15 PM SLObearsi: i think in italy and paris, thers no lockers
1:47:30 PM SLObearsi: u have to go to a room to check ur luggage in
1:47:32 PM Thomas Poon: oh
1:47:32 PM SLObearsi: its safe tho
1:47:40 PM SLObearsi: give or take its like 4 euros a day
1:47:42 PM SLObearsi: for the big one it hink
1:47:48 PM SLObearsi: 3 or 4 euros
1:47:53 PM Thomas Poon: cool
1:47:53 PM SLObearsi: but it is easier than carrying it around
1:47:59 PM SLObearsi: saves u a backache
1:48:04 PM Thomas Poon: yeah for sure
1:51:20 PM SLObearsi: yea man
1:51:28 PM SLObearsi: i actually bought one of those microfiber bath towels
1:51:32 PM SLObearsi: wasnt that bad
1:51:35 PM SLObearsi: dreid a lot quicker
1:51:38 PM Thomas Poon: did you get sheets
1:51:44 PM SLObearsi: oh yea
1:51:45 PM Thomas Poon: for hostels
1:51:56 PM SLObearsi: i had my mom take like a queen sheet or a full sheet
1:52:02 PM SLObearsi: and sew up 2 sides of it
1:52:08 PM SLObearsi: well almost 3 sids
1:52:09 PM SLObearsi: so the bottom
1:52:12 PM SLObearsi: and the two sides
1:52:14 PM SLObearsi: but not all the way
1:52:18 PM SLObearsi: so i can just climb in
1:52:22 PM SLObearsi: or if lazy, lay on top
1:52:25 PM Thomas Poon: like a sleeping bag
1:52:25 PM SLObearsi: they provide sheet
1:52:27 PM SLObearsi: yea
1:52:31 PM Thomas Poon: do they give you blankets?
1:52:32 PM SLObearsi: alot of places give u sheets
1:52:37 PM SLObearsi: some did
1:52:40 PM SLObearsi: but i didnt trust it
1:52:43 PM SLObearsi: just wear ur jacket haha
1:52:44 PM Thomas Poon: oh
1:53:00 PM SLObearsi: well iw ouldnt go shirtless on the blankets they give u
1:53:16 PM SLObearsi: and the sheet is pretty lightweight and doesnt take too much room too
1:54:45 PM Thomas Poon: oh
1:55:01 PM Thomas Poon: ... dam
1:55:14 PM Thomas Poon: its winter time though were going to have to use their blankets
1:58:59 PM SLObearsi: yeaaa
1:59:03 PM SLObearsi: they got heaters
1:59:10 PM SLObearsi: just read the reivews on hostelworld
1:59:13 PM SLObearsi: it does help alot haha
1:59:21 PM Thomas Poon: ok
1:59:49 PM SLObearsi: so yea
1:59:54 PM SLObearsi: i guess u prob wanna bring a light jacket
1:59:58 PM SLObearsi: and wear the heavy one around
2:00:02 PM Thomas Poon: yep
2:00:06 PM SLObearsi: youll be ok
2:00:12 PM SLObearsi: some thermals
2:00:15 PM SLObearsi: and tshirts
2:00:17 PM SLObearsi: good to go
2:00:22 PM SLObearsi: but yea
2:00:26 PM SLObearsi: i think my bag was 29 lbs total
2:00:36 PM SLObearsi: and when i got home, it was like 23
2:00:37 PM SLObearsi: or something